Registration and bill of sale

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jchisolm
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Registration and bill of sale

Postby jchisolm » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:07 pm

Anyone have any insight on this bill of sale issue and defunct kit makers. This rule change came about after the original Wheeler went out of business. I remember some time ago it came up at a FAA forum at Sun-N-Fun but I do not remember the details.

On the FAA site it says, in part, about EAB registration

If more than 50% of your amateur-built aircraft was built from a kit (prefabricated parts), you must also include a kit bill of sale from the kit manufacturer. A regular Aircraft Bill of Sale, AC Form 8050-2 (PDF) is acceptable if the word 'Aircraft' has been marked through and the word 'Kit' entered.

I think it would be hard to argue that I "fabricated" more than 50% of the parts. I will have done more than 51% of the work but not parts fabrication. Maybe by the time I make all the ribs and stuff I dont have I might be close. But then there are parts we got from EDI and others, like Grove, LP areo and such.

Any thoughts?
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Re: Registration and bill of sale

Postby Johnwell » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:47 pm

Personally, I asked for a bill of sale when I purchased the kit/project from a private person. There is no reasonable way to get an 'initial/original' bill of sale from a company that doesn't exist anymore. I believe the FAA is aware of this problem, if it is a problem to begin with. I consider the completion dates and accompanying initial of the person who performed that task per manual says enough. Other than that I see no option without getting really "creative" and make something up, which the FAA most likely doesn't prefer... :)
For this reason only I asked for a bill of sale for the kit and would not know what else to do. At least it shows I obtained the kit legally....I think... :)
If that doesn't work for the FAA, I guess I'd keep my fingers crossed they don't check me and find a reg# from a scrapyard.. :mrgreen:

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Re: Registration and bill of sale

Postby jchisolm » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:24 pm

EAA had their trailer at south by southwest this weekend in Austin. I asked them and they did not know the answer but said they would find out and get back to me. Asking for a bill of sale on a bunch of kit parts is beyond me and makes no sense. I think someone in a cube in OK city needed to justify their job so they made up another regulation. Oh what I would give to be able to do a performance review on a bunch of these people.
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Re: Registration and bill of sale

Postby kevin » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:56 pm

You can apply for registration and check the block "built from plans and parts" and it will go through fine.


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